Comments on: Musings on I-Names: A Skeptic Turns Supporter http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/ Your One Stop Shop for Chinese Pop Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: delicious mark hubery http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-7685 delicious mark hubery Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:55:51 +0000 http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-7685 <strong>Blog Hopper...</strong> Hi There. I'm blog hopping.... Blog Hopper…

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]]> By: =les http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-44 =les Mon, 19 Mar 2007 04:34:46 +0000 http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-44 Hi Larry - My name is Les Chasen of Neustar. We provide the technical back end operations for the = and @ registries for Cordance and XDI.org. I would be veryy interested in learning more about what you are hoping to do as far as a community space. That is something that I think i can help you with. One resource i would like to point out to you is http://dev.inames.net. Specifically i would like to point you to the "community registries" page. There is info on hosted community options through i-brokers as well as info on how to run one yourself along with some free software to help you out. On your question about delgating to your openid provider. I am not quite sure what you are trying to do. XRI does support the capability to have an IDP (OP in openid speak) that is different than the i-broker in which you purchased the i-name from. However, for that to work your IDP would have to understand who =larry is. in looking at your XRDS, http://xri.net/=larry?_xrd_r=application/xrds%2bxml, i see that you have been playing with your openid service endpoint (sep). It looks like you have changed the append attribute to "none". I think if you change the URI to be your myopenid.com url then it should work. I have not tried this myself. =les Hi Larry -

My name is Les Chasen of Neustar. We provide the technical back end operations for the = and @ registries for Cordance and XDI.org. I would be veryy interested in learning more about what you are hoping to do as far as a community space. That is something that I think i can help you with.

One resource i would like to point out to you is http://dev.inames.net. Specifically i would like to point you to the “community registries” page. There is info on hosted community options through i-brokers as well as info on how to run one yourself along with some free software to help you out.

On your question about delgating to your openid provider. I am not quite sure what you are trying to do. XRI does support the capability to have an IDP (OP in openid speak) that is different than the i-broker in which you purchased the i-name from. However, for that to work your IDP would have to understand who =larry is. in looking at your XRDS, http://xri.net/=larry?_xrd_r=application/xrds%2bxml, i see that you have been playing with your openid service endpoint (sep). It looks like you have changed the append attribute to “none”. I think if you change the URI to be your myopenid.com url then it should work. I have not tried this myself.

=les

]]> By: http://myid.bpdig.com/ http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-14 http://myid.bpdig.com/ Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:27:16 +0000 http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-14 If you dislike providing your private information to an OpenID Server Providers, or you got some problems to use their servers, you totally can build your own OpenID server just for yourself. There is a very simple solution to do that. What you need is a web site which supports php4/5, and use a system called phpMyID, it is an open project under beta test. To get phpMyID please visit: http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID/. If you can read Chinese, there is a tutorial in my blog, it may helps you to install it, or just follow the README in phpMyID zip file. My openID is powered by phpMyID, and it works well. If you dislike providing your private information to an OpenID Server Providers, or you got some problems to use their servers, you totally can build your own OpenID server just for yourself. There is a very simple solution to do that. What you need is a web site which supports php4/5, and use a system called phpMyID, it is an open project under beta test. To get phpMyID please visit: http://siege.org/projects/phpMyID/. If you can read Chinese, there is a tutorial in my blog, it may helps you to install it, or just follow the README in phpMyID zip file. My openID is powered by phpMyID, and it works well.

]]> By: Larz http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-12 Larz Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:53:34 +0000 http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-12 =Rajeev, I actually hadn't tried using XRI-style forwarding. I just tried what you suggested and it had no effect. Before, I had tried to change my service endpoints to point to myopenid or another provider instead of http://2idi.com/openid/ without luck. Perhaps my syntax was wrong. I'd imagine there would be some sort of fee if they're providing i-name hosting and resolution services for all of the delegated communities off of a business name, but I hope there is no fee merely to delegate the names. That would be like ICANN charging for each subdomain of a domain you already bought. Thanks for the info! =Larry =Rajeev,
I actually hadn’t tried using XRI-style forwarding. I just tried what you suggested and it had no effect. Before, I had tried to change my service endpoints to point to myopenid or another provider instead of http://2idi.com/openid/ without luck. Perhaps my syntax was wrong.

I’d imagine there would be some sort of fee if they’re providing i-name hosting and resolution services for all of the delegated communities off of a business name, but I hope there is no fee merely to delegate the names. That would be like ICANN charging for each subdomain of a domain you already bought.

Thanks for the info!

=Larry

]]> By: Rajeev Karamchedu http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-11 Rajeev Karamchedu Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:50:53 +0000 http://sinopop.net/2007/03/13/musings-on-i-names/#comment-11 Good post When you tried to delegate OpenID authority to MyOpenID, what happenned ? Did you try using the xri.net/=larry(+openid) style forwarding ? In your 2idi.com forwarding setup - you can setup a tag (+openid) to point to your blog. And in your blog template, you can setup link tags and point them to myopenid.com urls. I am sure you have done this but I thought I'd mention this anyway... I have had quite a few questions about OpenID and I-names and both =andy and =dummond have been quite helpful with their comments. It does appear that the feature sets are still evolving and the i-brokers are still trying to establish their business models ( = trying to figure out how to charge customers for more:) ) That is where your @business i-name question comes in. I have registered a business i-name also - However, when I contacted the ibrokers about using it, they had mentioned that that feature set is still evolving and there is a business model associated with it. My hunch is that they will somehow try to charge for the delegated communities that we will hang off of the business i-name & somehow charge for the forwarding services that the community members will be using. =rajeev Good post

When you tried to delegate OpenID authority to MyOpenID, what happenned ?
Did you try using the xri.net/=larry(+openid) style forwarding ?

In your 2idi.com forwarding setup - you can setup a tag (+openid) to point to your blog. And in your blog template, you can setup link tags and point them to myopenid.com urls.

I am sure you have done this but I thought I’d mention this anyway…

I have had quite a few questions about OpenID and I-names and both =andy and =dummond have been quite helpful with their comments.

It does appear that the feature sets are still evolving and the i-brokers are still trying to establish their business models ( = trying to figure out how to charge customers for more:) )

That is where your @business i-name question comes in. I have registered a business i-name also - However, when I contacted the ibrokers about using it, they had mentioned that that feature set is still evolving and there is a business model associated with it.

My hunch is that they will somehow try to charge for the delegated communities that we will hang off of the business i-name & somehow charge for the forwarding services that the community members will be using.

=rajeev

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